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I know as a Chinese writing science paper in accurate, concise and fluent English is a difficult thing and maybe just a fancy. However, it's the author's responsibility to try to write the contents clearly and logically. Some Chinese authors just translate their science papers from Chinese into English directly and sometimes every word by word. Language problem and writing prolem have greatly hinder international readers from showing any interest in these published papers.
When I edit an article and meet bad titles, abstracts or expressions, and I am not sure about my revision, I am usually up to my colleagues (our editorial members, scientific editors, and language editors) around the world to give me suggestions (we have a QQ group). A discussion among these groups gives me a lot of good suggestions. Here is an example.
Dr.QIU
Here is a title "Differences in Hydrodynamic Processes and Depositional Styles of Different Deposits Associate with Glaciers in the Moxi Basin, Southwest China". How can it be read better?
I think "differences " and "different" is a repeat and it seems they are unnecessary.
Here the author use "Associate with", I donot know whether the author wants to say that the differences have relationship with Glaciers.
Here is the abstract:
Abstract: The primary objective of this study is to understand the grain-size distribution differences of different deposits associate with glaciers activity in Moxi basin, southwest China. The grain-size distribution of different deposits in the periglacial area can provide records for glacier retreat, climate change and environmental change since the Quaternary in the alpine region. Moreover, this research can be helpful when people choose a place for building in this region because these different deposit zones can indicate whether there are potential hazards or not, for example, the deposits of debris flow mean debris flow occurred there and there still are potential risks. Using the sedimentological and geomorphologic methods, 28 samples from different deposits (including glacial, fluvioglacial, debris flow, river and lake deposit, etc) are tested by grain-size analysis in Moxi basin.
Dr.QIU
If I change the title as "Hydrodynamic Processes and Depositional Styles of Glacier-Associated Deposits in the Moxi Basin, Southwest China", is it okay?
Prof. LIU
Would be mostly the kind of paper dealing with the characterised sedimentology from glacial and debis flows in Moxi basin?
hydrodynamic processes may be the inferred
Dr.QIU
The abstract is very long, I only pasted the background part. Here is the whole abstract.
Abstract: The primary objective of this study is to understand the grain-size distribution differences of different deposits associate with glaciers activity in Moxi basin, southwest China. The grain-size distribution of different deposits in the periglacial area can provide records for glacier retreat, climate change and environmental change since the Quaternary in the alpine region. Moreover, this research can be helpful when people choose a place for building in this region because these different deposit zones can indicate whether there are potential hazards or not, for example, the deposits of debris flow mean debris flow occurred there and there still are potential risks. Using the sedimentological and geomorphologic methods, 28 samples from different deposits (including glacial, fluvioglacial, debris flow, river and lake deposit, etc) are tested by grain-size analysis in Moxi basin.
Results show that the grain-size distribution differences of different deposits are obvious in Moxi basin. Debris flow deposits is typical turbidity deposit process, where the particle gradation is not developed well; fluvioglacial and lake deposits are selective deposit process obviously, the grain size distributes widely, and its accumulated percentage (the relation curve between the grain-size and its accumulated percentage) is larger than 60%; river deposits are impure deposit process, and the accumulated percentage of the grain size is less than 10%. In comparison, the grain size of the glacial deposit distributes narrowly and its accumulated percentage is around 20%. On analyzing the partial-size distribution of the lake deposit samples and comparing them with other deposits, this paper reconstructed a landslide event and an old dammed lake process which was caused by the landslide in Moxi basin in history, then, it is deduced that a large-scale debris flow occurred in the lake deposits area and caused its disappearance. Besides, the partial-size distribution results from Moxi Platform (which is a typical complex deposit terrace) indicates that Moxi Platform is not formed by a single deposit process, but by a complex terrace mixed with the glacial, fluvial and debris flow deposits.
Dr. QIU
The abstract is so poor too.
It described too much of the background
Prof.Wu
reject directly
Prof. LIU
It is not well described, but it is of some reference if authors gave valuable hint just based on grain-size distribution.
Dr. QIU
It will need a lot of efforts before publication. However two reviewers recommened publication after they second review
Nowadays, some reviewers donot have patience to read carefully.
Dr. LIU
What's going on about the main text of this paper? Have the author(s) presented valuable data and conclusiongs?
Dr. QIU
the content is okay, but the writing is too poor
Massimo
My two cents: Dr. Q, your proposed title is very good.
The abstract suffers of the same problem as the title....and presumably of the paper
Too verbose and convoluted....
It would need a very good rewriting by someone familiar with the scientific literature in sedimentology.
Dr. QIU
yes!
I think a study must be on different situations
So "different" in the title is usually unnecessary
Massimo
sure.... and anyway it's repeated twice.
English is a simple and snappy language. ..
Unless you are Shakespeare. ... you should keep wording to the minimum
Dr. QIU
Title is very important to the readers.
a bad title will dispel the readers
Massimo
exactly. ....
Laurence
The abstract contains run-on sentences, with multiple grammatical mistakes. The title is too long. These are typically the first indicators that a paper is not well organized with the readership. In such cases the authors may have some fantastic science to tell the world about, but most readers would give up after a few sentences. Authors have the responsibility to tell a coherent story.
Dr. QIU
I completely agree with you.
Laurence
Thanks, Dr. QIU. As a language editor, I want to help these authors. Everyone needs editorial help. But when I have to say, "Please send this back to the Authors for complete revision," it causes me pain and anguish. Authors have responsibility, and so do language editors.
FOLEGA Dr. Qiu
Laurence, I have the same feeling as you experience. Sometimes when I edit an article with bad writing, I feel anguish and have a pain in my stomach.
Maybe we should reject more papers that are not well-written even they contain a certein valuable research results.
Laurence
I get a really good feeling when I read Richard Feynman's "Six Easy Pieces". I feel wonderful whenever I read the "General Chemistry" by Linus Pauling (the only chemist who helped me understand that the words of the atomic numbers were written in Latin: hence 'sodium' comes from natrium, that's why the symbol is Na). Pauling also explained where the names reduction and oxidation come from and how the first sceintists to observe redox reeactions got the gain and loss of electrons backwards, but the names stuck, causing confusion of young scientists for centuries). Galileo's "Dialog Concerning Two Chief World Systems", and Darwin's "Origin of the Species" show that the greatest scientists who changed our thinking all had great writing skills. Watson & Cricks' famous paper on the structure of DNA (http://www.nature.com/nature/dna50/watsoncrick.pdf) starts modestly: "We wish to suggest a structure for the salt of deoxyribose nucleic acid (D.N.A.). This structure has novel features which are of considerable biological interest."
Dr. QIU
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