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质疑是科学的精髓
权威人物的文章一定正确吗?
权威刊物的文章一定正确吗?
用事实和素材说话吧,
真理不是谁灌输的,
不是别人告诉你什么,你就相信什么,
真理是靠自己的脑袋从基本素材中找到的。
诚然
质疑让人不舒服,
但是
质疑才是健康的。
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现行微波吸收的主体理论框架错了(包括微波吸收机理、阻抗匹配理论、四分之一波长理论等),
但是推翻现行微波吸收错误理论体系的文章的发表很难:
推翻现行微波吸收理论是系列工作,其结果的发表一寸一寸地取得进展
因为理论体系错了,大量相关文章都错了:
Y. Akinay, U. Gunes, B. Çolak and T. Cetin,Recent progress of electromagnetic wave absorbers:
A systematic review and bibliometric approach,ChemPhysMater 2023
Vol. 2 Issue 3 Pages 197-206, https://doi.org/10.1016/j.chphma.2022.10.002
Recent progress of electromagnetic wave absorbers:
A systematic review and bibliometric approach - ScienceDirect
因此很容易撰写指出期刊文章错误的评述文章。
这种评述文章还可以从不同的侧面说明现行微波吸收的主体理论框架错了,
但是实践证明纠错文章更难被期刊接受
特别是
纠正权威人物文章的错误,
纠正权威期刊文章的错误:
Vazire, S., 2020. A toast to the error detectors. Nature. 577, 9.
DOI: https://doi.org/10.1038/d41586-019-03909-2
"Researchers are often warned against pointing out errors — and sometimes kindness is used as justification. They are told to focus on improving their own research, or to state only the positive aspects of that done by others. If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all."
"It’s time to be kinder to those doing the criticizing, and to demand more accountability and humility from those in power. Instead of punishing people who flag errors, we should scramble to hire them, give them prizes and award them grants so they can keep improving science. The least we can do is provide a space for fact-based criticism that is safe from intimidation and retaliation. It’s only thanks to error detectors that we can proclaim that science is self-correcting."
“Yes, error detectors can make research less comfortable — but that discomfort is healthy. We should feel responsible for minimizing errors in our work, and worried that we might have missed some.”
推翻现行微波吸收理论是系列工作,其结果的发表一寸一寸地取得进展
这是因为期刊本来就不愿意发表纠正自己期刊文章的错误,
而
这些微波吸收文章的错误不被认为是错误,
因为这些文章的观点符合当前学界的共识。
尽管这些文章的观点是错的,期刊也有充分的底气拒掉评述文章。
https://doi.org/10.32388/QQ1MFF
https://doi.org/10.32388/9P8Q56
Recognizing Problems in Publications Concerned with Microwave Absorption Film
and Providing Corrections: A Focused Review - Article (Preprint v2)
评述文章一旦被拒,就没有其它合适的期刊可投。
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具体实践和资料分享,供有兴趣的读者仔细研究:
Paper 1
2022年09月13日 01:03 (星期二)
Submission Confirmation for Comments on the paper “ Emerging Materials and Designs for Low- and Multi-Band Electromagnetic Wave (adfm.202210606)
参考文章
J. Cheng, H. Zhang, M. Ning, H. Raza, D. Zhang, G. Zheng, et al.Emerging Materials and Designs for Low‐ and Multi‐Band Electromagnetic Wave Absorbers: The Search for Dielectric and Magnetic Synergy? Advanced Functional Materials 2022 Vol. 32 Issue 23 Pages 2200123,https://doi.org/10.1002/adfm.202200123
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Advanced Functional Materials是材料领域的顶刊,但是提供拒稿意见的唯一审稿人居然是被评论文章的作者。
没有给评述文章作者反驳的机会就拒掉了评述文章,顶刊就是有气魄!
被拒的相关评述已经纳入下面的文章之中:
Ying Liu, Michael G. B. Drew, Yue Liu, A physics investigation on impedance matching theory in microwave absorption film—Part 2: Problem Analyses, Journal of Applied Physics, 2023, 134(4), 045304, See Sections IV and V.
Yue Liu,Ying Liu,Michael G. B Drew. Review:Wave mechanics of microwave absorption in films: a short review, Optics and Laser Technology, 2024, 178, 111211
从正反双方已经发表的观点看(从评述文章中的观点的重要性、新颖性、正确性上讲),
很难理解期刊急于拒掉评述文章的底层逻辑是什么(顶刊编辑思想的局限性?顶刊仅仅是维护主流理论的平台?顶刊不允许反对主流理论的思想传播?共识的一定是正确的?如果共识一定正确,学术问题就可以通过投票解决。学术需不需要、可不可以、允不允许争论?主流理论不容质疑?主流权威不能反对?主流期刊文章不容质疑?)
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绝对真实,卢家人了挑战爱因斯坦,卢氏就是牛! (baidu.com)
https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1582700776632704690
"后来我父亲又把论文寄到美国物理评论(Physics Review),杂志编辑很重视这篇文章,先后5次提出这样那样的问题,质疑论文的各项立论,都被我父亲圆满解答,这就是后来所说的“五个回合的较量”。最后编辑理屈词穷,由总编辑出面答复我父亲,承认无法再提问题,承认您的文章无懈可击,但因考虑该刊为主流物理杂志,不适宜刊登,建议到别的杂志社。"
所有创新都是对共识的挑战|专访清华大学教授朱恒源_腾讯新闻 (qq.com)
“创新本身不在于把它创造出来的那一刻,而在于这个创新被社会接受,并产生价值的过程。”
“所有创新在刚开始的时候,一定是不被社会接受的,否则就不叫创新。”
“旧范式不能解决新问题”
为什么伟大的创新是无法被计划的 - 华尔街见闻 (wallstreetcn.com)
“共识往往是通向创新的最大障碍,当人们尝试在探索中寻求共识时,整个系统不是让每个人去发现自己的踏脚石链,而是将各种不同的意见压缩成一个四平八稳的平均值。”
“而政客们倾向于嘲笑那些目标看似异想天开的科研项目,即显然不会带来任何重要成果的研究,认为它们纯粹就是浪费钱,这种态度的背后也体现了同样的逻辑。这些例子背后,存在一个非常具有诱惑性的推理过程,即在研究项目开展之前,我们有可能根据研究项目及其成果是否具备广泛的社会影响,而将其划分为重要或不重要的项目。”
中欧国际工商学院许小年:关心眼下,不要追逐风口 - 动点科技 (technode.com)
许小年:创新没有风口|许小年|风口|创新_新浪新闻 (sina.com.cn)
许小年:创业有必要避开风口,进行差异化竞争|创新|创业|经济_新浪财经_新浪网 (sina.com.cn)
许小年:创新没有风口 - 21财经 (21jingji.com)
许小年全球INS大会演讲:创新不在于新,甚至可以很旧 | 界面 · 财经号 (jiemian.com)
“创新不是风口,不是新潮,不一定是当前最前卫、最先锋的技术,而是要做自己和他人没有做过的事情,是带给这个世界、带给市场以新的产品、新的技术、新的商业模式、新的想法和新的服务,是实现差异化竞争。”
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Dear Dr. Liu,
Thank you for submitting your manuscript "Comments on the paper “ Emerging Materials and Designs for Low- and Multi-Band Electromagnetic Wave" (Comment, No. adfm.202210606) to Advanced Functional Materials. The reviewer report and comments are included at the end of this e-mail.
Unfortunately, based on the reviewer comments below, we are unable to consider it further for publication in Advanced Functional Materials. We recommend that you address the concerns before you submit your work to another journal.
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REVIEWER REPORT:
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Please note that reviewers may not be numbered consecutively. If reviewers have provided additional files, these are available here:
EVALUATION:
Reviewer's Responses to Questions
Is the manuscript justified and worth publishing?
Reviewer #1: No
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Are the arguments valid and supported by evidence?
Reviewer #1: No
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Which aspects of scholarly presentation require improvement (if any)?
Reviewer #1:
*Clarity
*Language
*References
COMMENTS TO AUTHOR:
Reviewer #1:
(1) The authors claimed that the "Relevant new progress missed in the perspective" considering the significant progress toward the mechanism of microwave absorptions for film and material…"
Response: What we want to correct is that in the microwave absorption field, the reflection loss (RL) is widely accepted and obtained via the transmission-line theory where the back metal plate is adopted. The corresponding thickness of RL refers to the thickness of the film composed of the absorption material combined with the binder. In many simulations and calculations, researchers usually construct the theoretical model of the transmission line with a metal back plate directly. Please see the literature as follows, Doi:10.1016/j.jallcom.2022.166568; Doi:10.1016/j.carbon.2022.03.017. The authors claimed the stereotype of transmission-line theory by "film" is not accurate according to the current mainstream academic views.
(2) The authors claimed that "The correct absorption mechanism for film has been shown to be wave superposition related to the cancelation of the two beams reflected from the two interfaces of the metal backed film, but this mechanism is not relevant for material where by contrast its attenuation power of material and the amount of microwave that enters the material are important".
Response: If the absorption mechanism of the film is simply assumed to be the interference cancellation of two light beams reflected from two interfaces of the metal-backed plate, regardless of the material itself, then the absorption frequencies of all absorption materials will depend only on the thickness of the film. This is contrary to the accepted experimental fact that dielectric materials represented by graphene tend to absorb waves in the higher frequency band of 2-18 GHz, while magnetic materials tend to absorb electromagnetic waves in the lower frequency band of 2-18 GHz. At the same time, it cannot explain the experimental facts of one, two, or more absorption peaks occurring for different materials in the frequency range of 2-18 GHz. (Related literatures: Doi:10.1016/j.carbon.2022.06.037;Doi:10.1016/j.jcis.2021.11.079;Doi:10.1016/j.carbon.2022.02.038; Doi:10.1016/j.jallcom.2018.02.016). The hot topic of controllable frequency of electromagnetic absorption would also not exist.
In fact, in our perspective paper, the input impedance and the impedance of free space were described in detail by the Eq1 and 2 according to the transmission line theory. The impedance is relevant to material considering the complex permittivity and permeability of different materials. In other words, the impedance properties of materials are dependent on the electromagnetic parameters, thus giving the evaluation for whether the incident microwave enters the materials or not. This view is widely accepted by the current academic field of microwave absorption, and undoubtedly most publication works also support this viewpoint.
(3) The authors claimed that "The multi-absorption bands shown by Figs. 2b, 2c, and 5g in [1], whether discrete or continuous, were characterized by RL, which signifies that the properties originate from the film, but not from material" in the 3.1 Part.
Response: we want to emphasize that the discrete or continuous peaks of absorbers are essentially caused by the intrinsic electric or magnetic properties of materials (i.e. the complex permittivity and permeability of absorbers), thus introducing the impedance issue, magneto-electric effects, and other quarter-wavelength based discrete multi-band absorption issues. The authors of this Comments should not chop those issues up and only show a one-sided view.
Additionally, the authors mentioned in the Comment manuscript "Since material with multi-interfaces or hierarchical structures has some similarity to film…". So we would like to ask the authors "Does this mean that the authors agree that the structure of a material determines its properties?" "Does this contradict the authors' view in the Comment manuscript that RL properties are derived from thin films, not materials?
(4) The authors also claimed that "Multi-absorption bands cannot be obtained by multi-interfaces or hierarchical structures of material".
Response: In fact, we didn't mention that multi-absorption bands can be obtained by multi-interfaces or hierarchical structures. What we emphasized is that from the current view of the microwave absorption field, the multi-interfaces or hierarchical structures are often mentioned as structural features or necessary designs for improving or optimizing the microwave absorbing performance in the various absorbers. (Related literature as follows, Adv. Mater. 2022, 2107538; Adv. Mater. 2021, 2106195; Progress in Materials Science 127 (2022) 100946.)
(5) The authors also claimed in "Other issues": the view of "Therefore, magnetic materials possess unique advantages in achieving small size and strong absorption in the S- and C-bands" is not true. They think "The Snoek limit that requires μr to drop at high frequency is a completely different issue since it is related to the saturated magnetic flux.".
Response: The objective fact is that μr and the consume-sparing magnetic Flux are both the related parameters to resonance frequency fr. We made it clear that when the natural frequency of the target material matches the natural frequency of the EMWs, which is known as the cut-off frequency, a natural resonance phenomenon occurs.".
Natural resonance plays a very important role in magnetic materials for electromagnetic wave absorption. In addition, it is the common fact in the electromagnetic field that magnetic materials are beneficial to the absorption of electromagnetic waves at S-and C-band, and a large number of magnetic-related absorption mechanisms are based on Snoek's limit (Supported literatures: Doi: 10.1016/j.jmmm.2019.165272; Doi:10.1016/j.apmt.2020.100596; Doi: 10.1021/acsami.5b12203; Doi: 10.1088/1361-6463/ac196d).
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xxxxx, Associate Editor
Advanced Functional Materials
E-mail: afm@wiley-vch.de
Tel: +49(0)6201-606-286
http://www.afm-journal.de
Impact Factor (2022 Journal Citation Reports): 19.924
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Paper 2
参考文章
S. Zhang, T. Wang, M. Gao, P. Wang, H. Pang, L. Qiao, and Fashen Li,Strict proof and applicable range of the quarter-wavelength model for microwave absorbers,J. Phys. D: Appl. Phys. 53 (2020) 265004 (8pp),https://doi.org/10.1088/1361-6463/ab79da
Zhang_2020_J._Phys._D-_Appl._Phys._53_265004.pdf
被拒的评述文章内容已经纳入下面这篇文章之中:
Ying Liu, Yue Liu, Drew M.G.B, A re-evaluation of the mechanism of microwave absorption in film Part 3: Inverse relationship, Mater. Chem. Phys. 2022, 290, 126521.
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类似错误文章:
相关纠错文章:
Ying Liu, Michael G. B. Drew, Yue Liu, A physics investigation on impedance matching theory in microwave absorption film—Part 2: Problem Analyses, Journal of Applied Physics, 2023, 134(4), 045304
Yue Liu, Ying Liu, Michael G. B. Drew, Review: Recognizing Problems in Publications Concerned with Microwave Absorption Film and Providing Corrections: A Focused Review, Qeios, preprin, 2024-07-01, Supplementary data,
Yue Liu, Ying Liu, Drew MGB, [Commentary] Comments on: “A perspective on impedance matching and resonance absorption mechanism for electromagnetic wave absorbing” by Hou et al. [Carbon 222 (2024) 118935], Qeios, 2024,
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14-Sep-2021
Journal of Physics D: Applied Physics Dear Dr Liu,
Re: "Comments on the paper “Strict proof and applicable range of the quarter wavelength model for microwave absorbers”" Article reference: JPhysD-127745
Your Comment, submitted to Journal of Physics D: Applied Physics, has now been refereed and the referee report(s) can be found below and/or attached to this message.
Please accept our apologies for the severe delay - it has taken some time to obtain an authoritative report from our Editorial Board.
We regret to inform you that the referee(s) have recommended that your article should not be published in the journal, for the reasons given in the reports. Your manuscript has therefore been withdrawn from consideration.
REFEREE REPORT(S):
PRELIMINARY REPORT BY EDITORIAL BOARD MEMBER:
The authors have been used theoretical modelling in their comment and the comments may be reasonable.
Referee: 1
COMMENTS TO THE AUTHOR(S)
The application of quarter wavelength theory in the field of absorbing material design is widely recognized. However, the relationship between its theoretical proof and actual data still needs to be studied and found. Firstly, the author questions the theoretical basis deduced in the original article, that is, there are different views on the wavelength calculation formula. In fact, the calculation method of wavelength in various media has been reported in the field of electromagnetic field and electromagnetic wave for a long time. Secondly, the wide applicability of the model is questioned according to the relationship between dielectric constant and permeability in different cases. The two special cases discussed in this paper can not be used as a strong argument to support the author's query, so a more detailed proof process is needed to determine the applicability of the model in other cases. Thank the author for his contribution to the theoretical application of quarter wavelength theory. However, because the comprehensiveness and accuracy of this review still need to be further discussed, there is still a certain distance from publication. So, I do not recommend it to be accepted for publication.
Referee: 2
COMMENTS TO THE AUTHOR(S)
REPORT BY EDITORIAL BOARD MEMBER
Reject.
Referee: 3
COMMENTS TO THE AUTHOR(S)
Referee Report
on paper “ Comments on the paper “Strict proof and applicable range of the quarter wavelength model for microwave absorbers” “ (JPhysD-127745) by authors Ying Liu, Yue Liu, Michael G. B. Drew submitted to Journal of Physics D
This is interesting theoretical comment. It reports the correction of the problem related with the proof of the quarter-wavelength model in current literature and specifically in a recent paper “Strict proof and applicable range of the quarter wavelength model for microwave absorbers” by Zhang et al. In my opinion, the proposed representations, mathematical calculations and proofs are reliable without any doubts. So, the paper should be published in present form without any changes. My verdict is Accept as is.
Referee: 4
COMMENTS TO THE AUTHOR(S)
ADJUDICATION BY EDITORIAL BOARD MEMBER
I agree with the criticisms of Reviewer 1. The comment is not directly related to the paper, as is commented by the reviewer. If the authors would like to write a new manuscript in this area, they are welcome.
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评述文章内容已经纳入下面这篇文章之中:
Ying Liu, Yue Liu, Drew M.G.B, A re-evaluation of the mechanism of microwave absorption in film Part 3: Inverse relationship, Mater. Chem. Phys. 2022, 290, 126521.
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Paper 3
参考文章
S. Kang, S. Qiao, Y. Cao, Z. Hu, J. Yu, Y. Wang, et al. Hyper-Cross-Linked Polymers-Derived Porous Tubular Carbon Nanofibers@TiO2 toward a Wide-Band and Lightweight Microwave Absorbent at a Low Loading Content,ACS Appl Mater Interfaces 2020 Vol. 12 Issue 41 Pages 46455-46465,https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32991137
At 2021-01-14 22:03:12, "ACS Applied Materials & Interfaces" <onbehalfof@manuscriptcentral.com> wrote:
14-Jan-2021
Journal: ACS Applied Materials & Interfaces
Manuscript ID: am-2020-22315s
Title: "Comments on “Hyper-Cross-Linked Polymers-Derived Porous Tubular Carbon Nanofibers@TiO2 toward a Wide-Band and Lightweight Microwave Absorbent at a Low Loading Content”"
Author(s): Liu, Ying; Drew, Michael; Liu, Yue
Dear Dr. Liu:
Thank you for your submission to ACS Applied Materials & Interfaces. Unfortunately, after a careful editorial review, and attempting to invite many referees, I have decided that we will not be able to consider this paper for publication in the journal.
We have attempted to identify referees by sending a large number of invitations, and have been unable to get any reviews. The reason is that this paper elucidates physics/mathematical arguments that are so detailed and complex that they are outside the scope of the AMI readership. While your comment may have merit, ACS AMI is not the best venue for its publication. The paper is better suited for a journal where mathematics/physics is part of the scope. In that venue it could receive a better review/evaluation.
I am sorry that we are unable to consider this paper, but I trust you will be able to find a suitable alternative journal to consider the manuscript for publication.
ACS Applied Materials & Interfaces
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Paper 4
参考文章
Y. Sun, N. Wang, H. Yu and X. Jiang, Metal–organic framework-based Fe/C@Co3O4 core–shell nanocomposites with outstanding microwave absorption properties in low frequencies, Journal of Materials Science 2020 Vol. 55 Issue 17 Pages 7304-7320, https://doi.org/10.1007/s10853-020-04521-w
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2020年10月12日 22:56 (星期一)
Decision on your submission to the Journal of Materials Science JMSC-D-20-08245 - [EMID:07cbc263e92bd50e]
Dear Prof. Liu,
Your submission to the Journal of Materials Science with the title "Letter to Editor--Comments to “Metal–organic framework-based Fe/C@Co3O4 core–shell nanocomposites with outstanding microwave absorption properties in low frequencies” by Yijing Sun, Ning Wang, Hongying Yu, and Xuzhou Jiang" (JMSC-D-20-08245) has now been evaluated. I regret to inform you that it is no longer being considered for publication. If reviewers' comments are available, these may be found under Comments for the Authors below. Other common reasons for rejection are poor English language usage and substantial similarity to prior work in the literature.
The resubmission of manuscripts previously considered and declined for publication in the Journal of Materials Science is discouraged, unless specifically invited by the editor.
…
Journal of Materials Science
COMMENTS FOR THE AUTHORS:
Dear Authors
The journal of Materials Science no longer includes a "Letters" section
Your letter does raise a number of interesting points
If you decide to write a full paper on this topic we would be happy to consider it
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Paper 5
参考文章
Y. Sun, H. Jia, J. Liu, H. Yu and X. Jiang, Metal–organic framework-derived C/Co/Co3O4 nanocomposites with excellent microwave absorption properties in low frequencies, Journal of Materials Science: Materials in Electronics 2020 Vol. 31 Issue 14 Pages 11700-11713, https://doi.org/10.1007/s10854-020-03721-z
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2020年12月17日 23:19 (星期四)
Decision on your Manuscript #JMSE-D-20-04600 - [EMID:323018a28052fafc]
Dear Prof. Liu:
REF: YOUR PAPER #JMSE-D-20-04600
"Comments on the paper “Metal–organic framework-derived C/Co/Co3O4 nanocomposites with excellent microwave absorption properties in low frequencies” by Yijing Sun, Hongyuan Jia, Jinbiao Liu, Hongying Yu, Xuzhou Jiang"
Not acceptable
Dear colleagues,
The Comment and Reply were reviewed by a member of our Editorial Board and the consequent decision is not to accept either the Comment or the Reply.
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Journal of Materials Science: Materials in Electronics
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很难发表的两篇纠错文章:
Liu Ying, Liu Yue, Drew Michael G. B. Natural mathematical derivation of the Gibbs-Duhem Equation
related to ΔG and ∂G/∂ξ, International Journal of Thermophysics, 2022, 43, 73
Ying Liu, Xiangbin Yin, Michael G. B. Drew, Yue Liu, Reflection Loss is a Parameter for Film, not Material, Non-Metallic Material Science, 2023, 5(1): 38-48.
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不得不将评述文章改写成的两篇综述研究文章:
Ying Liu, Yue Liu, Drew MGB. Review: Comparison of calculations for interplanar distances in a crystal lattice. Crystallography Reviews 2017 , 23(4) : 252-301.
Ying Liu, Yue Liu, Drew MGB. Review: Clarifications of concepts concerning interplanar spacing in crystals with reference to recent publications. SN Applied Sciences 2020 , 2(4) : 755.
参考文章
“Massimo Nespolo
Massimo Nespolo obtained his MSc in Chemistry from the University of Torino, Italy, and his DrSc in mineralogy from the University of Tokyo, Japan. After a post-doctoral experience at the National Institute of Materials Science, Tsukuba, Japan, he obtained the position of Professor at the Université de Lorraine, Nancy, France. He is the founder and former chair of the Commission on Mathematical and Theoretical Crystallography of the International Union of Crystallography. His research interests concentrate on twinning and modular structures and their group-theoretical description.”
(IUCr) A new method of calculating interplanar spacing: the position-factor method (wiley.com)
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别人这样告诉你,你相信吗?
权威学校、权威媒体、权威期刊、权威教授,
这意味着你没有必要质疑吗?我们长了个脑袋是用来干什么的?
材料学院范群成教授教学研究取得重要新成果-西安交通大学新闻网 (xjtu.edu.cn)
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Bibliometrics: Is your most cited work your best?
J. P. Ioannidis, K. W. Boyack, H. Small, A. A. Sorensen and R. Klavans
Nature 2014 Vol. 514 Issue 7524 Pages 561-2
Accession Number: 25355346 DOI: 10.1038/514561a
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25355346
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Bias Against Novelty in Science: A Cautionary Tale for Users of Bibliometric Indicators
J. Wang, R. Veugelers and P. E. Stephan
SSRN Electronic Journal 2015 Pages doi: 10.2139/ssrn.2710572
http://dx.doi.org/10.2139/ssrn.2710572
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w22180/w22180.pdf
Bias against Novelty in Science: A Cautionary Tale for Users of Bibliometric Indicators | NBER
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.respol.2017.06.006
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