经典句子： 

（Peer review） is the ability for your peers to keep the world from learning about your work 

同行评审就是你的同行有能力阻止世界了解你的工作

视频文件：

https://blog.sciencenet.cn/home.php?mod=attachment&id=1187719

https://blog.sciencenet.cn/home.php?mod=attachment&id=1187718

出处：

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5sRYsMjiAQ

The Problem With Peer Review - Eric Weinstein

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英汉对照（机器翻译）

peer review is a cancer from outerspace it came from the biomedical community 

科学界原来并没有同行评审。同行评审是后来人为地侵入科学界的外来癌症。

it invaded science the old system because I have to say this because many people

 who are now professional scientists have an idea that peer review has always been in our literature 

and it absolutely has not 

原生态的科学体系被同行评审的病毒侵入，因为我不得不这么说，因为现在许多专业科学家都认为

同行评审一直存在，但是它绝对是他妈的 不是

I send the revised version, two experimental gerontology

我发送修订版,两个实验老年学，

they send it out for review as you know

他们将其发送出去进行审查，因为你知道

review is blind you don't know who your reviewers are. 

审查是盲目的，你不知道你的审稿人是谁，

but you can often tell who they are it's not as obscure dependants

但你经常可以知道他们是谁，这不是一个小领域的晦涩难懂的依赖者，是的，

a small field

yeah，

so they read the acknowledging acknowledgments of my paper 

which are now on alert about Carol I have to thank her in the paper for the work she did

所以他们读我的论文的致谢。现在对卡罗尔保持警惕，我必须在论文中感谢她所做的工作，

but I'm now on alert that she's gone strange on the subject matter of this paper

and so I've broken her out separately in the acknowledgments I don't want to be as gracious to her

但我现在警惕她对这篇论文的主题变得奇怪，所以我已经另行致谢。我不想对她那么客气，

because she's being hostile to me， right

因为她对我有敌意，对吧，

I don't want to not acknowledge her so I

我不想不承认她，所以我

acknowledge her separately experimental

承认她单独的实验

gerontology then I am 99% sure sends the

老年学，然后我 99% 确定将

paper to her as the reviewer she pans it

论文发送到 她作为审稿人，她对它进行了

absolutely brutal critiques just pages

绝对残酷的批评，只是一页

and pages and pages of them they are not

又一页，它们不是

high-quality critiques I could go

高质量的批评，我可以仔细

through every single one of whether this

检查这是否

is a podcast no I can't do it here but I

是播客的每一个，不，我不能在这里这样做，但我

could have that no I didn't know what to

可以 不，我不知道该怎么

do because she was in line for a Nobel

办，因为她正在排队获得

Prize that was well understood I didn't

诺贝尔奖，这是众所周知的，我

want to accuse a leading light of the

不想指责该领域的领军人物，

field of okay this is exactly where I

好吧，这正是我

got angry either at the beginning of the

在开始时感到愤怒的地方

podcast you no no offense you were

播客，你这个白痴，不，没有冒犯，你本来是

in line for a Nobel Prize you didn't I

诺贝尔奖的候选人，但你不是，我的

mean I'm sorry there is an aspect of

意思是，我很抱歉，这其中有一个方面是

this about giving away your power even

放弃你的权力，

though you've even a cumulus you don't

即使你甚至有一个你根本没有的积云

even have a PhD is I'm just saying at

博士学位是我当时只是说，

the time if you mentioned her name yeah

如果你提到她的名字，是的，

would say yeah her Nobel Prize is one of

会说是的，她的诺贝尔奖是这些年的其中之一，

these years right

so my point was I was in the awkward

所以我的观点是我处于尴尬的

position I didn't understand what I was

境地，我不明白我应

supposed to do I didn't want to send

该做什么 我不想发

back a review that said I don't know who

回一条评论，说我不知道

the person is who reviewed this but they

评论这个的人是谁，但他们

don't understand the material and all of

不理解这些材料，所有的

critiques suck because I didn't want to

批评都很糟糕，因为我不想

accuse somebody who was that powerful of

指责一个如此强大的人

getting here's the problem what do you

到达这里的问题是你要做什么，

do you don't actually have evidence in

你实际上没有

the hard right form where like you have

硬性正确形式的证据，就像你

got videotape but on the other hand

有录像带一样，但另一方面，

these are small worlds this all of this

这些都是小世界，这一切

is preposterous right so I sit on the

都是荒谬的，所以我坐在

review for too long not knowing what you

评论中 太久不知道你

don't know I don't know how to handle

不知道什么我不知道如何处理

you know I'm sorry but like I have no

你知道我很抱歉但就像我没有

advisor your advisor was not equipped

顾问你的顾问没有

for the modern era

为现代时代做好准备

he wasn't equipped for the modern era he

他没有为现代时代做好准备他

wasn't equipped for molecular biology

没有 不具备分子生物学的能力，

that's true I finally settle on a

这是真的，我最终决定了一个

strategy that I can live with and I send

我可以接受的策略，我发回

back a note I send back the review and

了一张便条，我发回了评论，

my note says I don't know why but the

我的便条说我不知道​​为什么，但

this entire list of critiques is not

整个批评列表并不

high quality if you would like to point

高 如果您想向

me to any of the critiques in this list

我指出此列表中

that you would like me to address I am

您希望我解决的任何批评，我

more than happy to do it

非常乐意这样做，

but I don't think it makes sense to

但我认为

address the entire list and as I recall

解决整个列表没有意义，我记得

it I hit Send on the email and within

它 我点击了电子邮件上的“发送”，

minutes maybe it was an hour I got back

几分钟之内，也许一个小时后，我就收到了

a response your paper has been accepted

回复，你的论文已被接受

for publication which blew me away

发表，这让我大吃一惊，

because that's no sense

因为

according to regular protocol right it

根据常规协议，这是没有意义的，对吧，这

makes no sense because clearly they're

没有意义，因为显然他们

supposed to send it out for review the

应该 发送出去供审阅

review were supposed to say whether it's

评论应该说是否

supposed to get published if you were

应该发表 如果你

said it shouldn't be published I said I

说它不应该发表 我说我

refuse to address these critiques unless

拒绝解决这些批评，除非

you ask me to the editors have

你问我 编辑已经

overridden the reviewer they understood

推翻了审稿人 他们理解

the reviews were cruddy they needed me

这些评论 他们很粗鲁，他们需要我

to say that in order to justify the move

说，为了证明

that they wanted to make they knew the

他们想要采取的行动是合理的，他们知道这篇

paper was good and the review was crap

论文很好，而审稿很糟糕，

so they effectively overrode normal peer

所以他们有效地推翻了正常的同行

review was my paper peer reviewed well

评审，我的论文同行评审得很好，

it was by the editors who were expert

是由编辑们进行的 专家，

but let me jump in peer review is a

但让我跳进同行评审是一种

cancer from outer space it came from the

来自外太空的癌症，它来自

biomedical community it invaded science

生物医学界，它入侵了科学

the old system because I have to say

旧系统，因为我不得不

this because many people who are now

这么说，因为现在许多

professional scientists have an idea

专业科学家都认为

that peer review has always been in

同行评审一直存在

literature and it absolutely

文学，这绝对

 has not right okay it used

是他妈的不对，好吧，过去

to be that the editor of a journal took

是期刊的编辑

responsibility for the quality of the

对期刊的质量负责，这就是

journal which is why we had things like

为什么我们首先会出现像自然这样的东西，

nature crop up in the first place

because they had courageous

因为他们有勇敢、

knowledgeable forward-thinking editors

知识渊博、具有前瞻性的编辑

and so I just want to be very clear

所以我只想说得很清楚，

because there is a mind virus out there

因为有一种思想病毒

that says peer review is the cynic wand

说，同行评审是

on of scientific excellence yada yada

科学卓越的愤世嫉俗的魔杖，yada yada yada

yada and if

胡扯胡扯胡扯，如果

you don't believe me go back and learn

你不相信我，请回去了解

that this is a recent invasive problem

这是 科学中最近的侵入性问题

in the sciences recent invasive problem

最近的侵入性问题

that has no justification for existing

没有理由存在，

in light of the fact not only does it

事实上，它不仅

have no justification for existing when

没有理由存在，当

Watson and Crick did the double helix

沃森和克里克做双螺旋时

and this is the cleanest example we have

，这是我们得到的最干净的例子，

the paper was agreed should not be sent

论文得到了一致同意 不应该被

out for review because anyone who was

送去审查，因为任何

competent would understand immediately

有能力的人都会立即明白

what its implications were there are

它的含义是什么，有

reasons that great work cannot be

原因导致伟大的工作不能接受

peer-reviewed furthermore you have

同行评审，而且你

entire fields that are existing now with

现在拥有的整个领域都存在

electronic archives that are not peer

电子档案，但没有经过同行评审同行

reviewed peer review is not peer review

评审是 不是同行评审，

it sounds like peer review it is peer

听起来像同行评审，这是同行

injunction it is the ability for your

禁令，是你的

peers to keep the world from learning

同行阻止世界了解

about your work keep the world from

你的工作的能力，阻止世界了解

learning about your work because peer

你的工作，因为同行

review is what happens 

评审是发生的事情，

real peer review is what happens after you've passed the  thing called peer review

真正的同行评审是在你的论文被接受之后发生的事情 （已经通过了所谓的同行评审这个狗屎东西之后的事情）

yes

是的