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科学网摘译了Nature杂志就我与饶毅的辩论所发的“社论”，此前Nature亚太通讯员David Cyranoski曾与我通了几封E-mail查实情况，但又不给我回答的时间，急忙发了出来，为了让网友了解他们的“科学态度”，现将我们两人的全部通信公布于下，随后我将会将此社论翻成中文，并就此文发表我的评论，由于本人年老，反应慢，易于疲劳，可能要稍等数日，请关心者原谅：
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Dear David,
The attachment is my answer for your questions in Chinese. I wish that could be using for you. Cui, Keming |
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I had to write the story based on what I had. The story is already
finalized.
Best,
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "崔克明" <ckm@pku.edu.cn>
To: "d.cyranoski" <d.cyranoski@natureasia.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 1:54 PM
Subject: 回复:Re: 回复:Re: 回复:Nature/Peking University controversy
Dear David,
How long time can you wait? I do that as soon as possible.
----- 原邮件 -----
从: "d.cyranoski" <d.cyranoski@natureasia.com>
日期: 星期三, 十二月 3日, 2008 上午11:27
主题: Re: 回复:Re: 回复:Nature/Peking University controversy
> Dear Dr. Cui,
> I do hope however that we can discuss this important matter at
> some point.
> Best regards,
> David
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "d.cyranoski" <d.cyranoski@natureasia.com>
> To: "崔克明" <ckm@pku.edu.cn>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:21 PM
> Subject: Re: 回复:Re: 回复:Nature/Peking University controversy
>
>
> > Dear Dr. Cui,
> > We will not be able to wait that long, so please do not bother.
> > Best regards,
> > David
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "崔克明" <ckm@pku.edu.cn>
> > To: "d.cyranoski" <d.cyranoski@natureasia.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:42 AM
> > Subject: 回复:Re: 回复:Nature/Peking University controversy
> >
> >
> > Dear David,
> >
> > Do you agree with me on my plan, if you do not agree with me,I will
> > not do that.
> >
> > Keming Cui
> >
> > ----- 原邮件 -----
> > 从: "d.cyranoski" <d.cyranoski@natureasia.com>
> > 日期: 星期二, 十二月 2日, 2008 下午2:47
> > 主题: Re: 回复:Nature/Peking University controversy
Please let me know if you will be able to respond to
the comments below. I need to finish this by the end
of the day.
Best regards,
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "d.cyranoski" <d.cyranoski@natureasia.com>
To: "崔克明" <ckm@pku.edu.cn>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:04 PM
Subject: Re: 回复:Nature/Peking University controversy
Thank you very much for getting back to me. I understand your hesitation to
exchange ideas in English.
But can you please answer the following questions and confirm or correct the
statements below?
You can answer in Chinese if need be.
QUESTIONS
(1) From what I understand, in the past, Peking University did not have
clear guidelines on what happens to a laboratory when a professor retires.
But Yi Rao, when he became Dean, was given that power. Is that correct?
(2) From what I understand, Dr. Rao, as Dean, has been given the right to
make decisions about how to run laboratories. Is that true? If so, why do
you resist that authority?
(3) You were trying to place your associate professor as the successor to
head your laboratory. Is that true? Some people say that would be like
nepotism and that it restricts the integration of new and better talent. How
do you respond?
(4) You compare Yi Rao's efforts to those of Lysenko. That seems to be an
exaggerated comparison. How do you justify it?
Can you please CONFIRM OR CORRECT the following?
(a) Cui retired from Peking University four years ago but kept his
laboratory even after retiring.
(b)This year he tried to get his associate professor to formally take over
the laboratory.
(c) Rao refused to acknowledge the promotion. Instead he planned to cut the
size of the laboratory by 100 square meters (from 175 m2).
(d) Rao says the associate professor will have a few years to prove himself
before he is evaluated for promotion and for keeping the laboratory.
(e) On October 9, Cui started a string of entries into his blog which became
widely read when copied by other websites and the on-line BBS of Peking
University.
(f) Cui described Rao' as belittling his field of science, plant anatomy,
just because it was not a "hot" field.
(g) The blog drew some sympathetic comments from students who copied it to
more widely read student blogs.
(h) After alleging that Rao was trying to cut off support for a discipline
of science, Cui compared Rao’s efforts with the activities of Lysenko.
(i) But Peking University lacks clear guidelines on how to proceed in such
situations.
(j) When Rao took over as dean in September 2007, the university made clear
in writing that such decisions would be the Dean’s.
(k) Cui worked at Peking University for more than 40 years.
(l) Cui told Rao that he would bring the matter to the university president.
Cui claims to have a close relationship with the university president.
我与北大前校长许智宏教授是同一个老师，他也是这个实验室出去的，所以我们熟悉。但从他上任前夕我就对他表过态，在他在任期间我决不会找他利用校长的权利帮我解决问题，事实也是如此。这次我也没有找过他，如果我的博客文章中提到我们的关系给他造成了麻烦，我会向他道歉。我在博文《饶毅院长，刀下留人，请勿将基础学科赶尽杀绝》中是这样说的：“虽然北大校长许智宏是我的师兄，但我不想通过他的权利求你，而在这里与你摆事实讲道理，请全国科技工作者做评判。”现在看起来我不应该说这句话，这句话还是有点拿校长是我师兄压人，所以你才有这样的理解，实在对不起。
----- Original Message -----
From: "崔克明" <ckm@pku.edu.cn>
To: "d.cyranoski" <d.cyranoski@natureasia.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:08 AM
Subject: 回复:Nature/Peking University controversy
Dear David,
Thank you very much for your interesting in the controversy between me
and Yi Rao.Would you please read our blog article carefully before
your writing about the controversy. You can discuss some questions
with me by E-mail. I am living in my daughter's home in Australia.I do
not speak and hear in English very vell because I have been studing
English from 46th years old, I studied Russion in my University.
Best regards,
Keming Cui(Ke-Ming Cui)
Prof. of Botany
----- 原邮件 -----
从: "d.cyranoski" <d.cyranoski@natureasia.com>
日期: 星期一, 十二月 1日, 2008 下午1:57
主题: Nature/Peking University controversy
> Dear Dr. Cui,
>
> I am the Asia-Pacific correspondent for Nature. I am writing about
> the controversy between you and Dr. Yi Rao concerning the choice of
> successor to head your laboratory.
>
> I would like to discuss this with you. Please let me know if you
> might
> have time for a short discussion. I can be reached at 136-8321-
> 2330
> or by email.
>
> Best regards,
> David
>
>
> David Cyranoski
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